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  Smashing Pumpkins thir13en Remasters 

Please note that these info lists are edited from how I received them, so they appear somewhat uniform. Where possible I have provided information as to source, lineage, and some extras. Not all information is guaranteed to be accurate. The personal views expressed in these texts do not necessarily reflect my opinions or those of anybody mentioned in, or linked to this site. Original text files unaltered. Time is rounded up to the nearest minute.
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1988-08-10 Avalon, Chicago, IL, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

I'm one of those that climbed aboard in 1991 from the moment I heard "I Am One". I was freaked by what I heard, and dug in for the next decade as a dedicated fan. Of course for most of us "freaks", that means going backwards. The inevitable question becomes "...where did these guys come from?" and "...how did this all happen, just like that?"
Clearly, it doesn't happen "just like that". There is an embryonic stage to all of it, even Jimi spent time laying mediocre chops over The Isley Brothers and Little Richard tracks. Yea, I said it, mediocre. But the great will come, as we all know now. But this is the mediocre embryonic stage of the Pumpkins. The foundation is there, but it's weak and at times it struggles to be engaging. The songwriting maturity is still just around the corner, so I certainly wouldn't put this in my top rotation of SP shows, but it's an important link in the chain.
And of course the other question that comes to mind, why is it that in 1988 we got a pretty decent soundboard but by 1991-92 they were hard to come by?

Process: Waves REN EQ>Waves REN COMP>Waves S1>BBE-SM2>Waves L3 MM>FLAC

Set:

01. The Vigil
02. Armed to the Teeth
03. Bleed
04. There It Goes
05. My Eternity
06. I Fall
07. Nothing and Everything
08. 6234
09. Holiday
10. Screaming

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
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Source: SBD>ANA>CDR

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
SBD (ana) 8/10 63m - 446MB FLAC

1989-03-16 WZRD-FM Studios, Chicago, IL, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Obertu asked for this some time ago. Sorry, it took me a bit longer to get it to you. When we last chatted, you mentioned you liked the talking on this one. I of course had cut it all out. But you've seeded a crapload of shows from your list that I've asked you for, how can I disappoint you? So I went back and did the whole thing. Now hear the interviews in hi-fidelity too! lol
The original sounded really heavy on the 1.1k and also around 350Hz. And it seemed very flat in general. I pulled those freq's hard, re-tightened the low end and slightly curved the highs while doing a mild de-crunch. The difference is better than I had hoped for. There's much more dynamic space and a better rounded spectrum throughout. Even in the interviews, Billy's voice sounds fuller, richer, more real.
Enjoy, and thanks to O for all the stuff you've seeded for me.

Setlist:

01. Venus in Furs [Velvet Underground]
02. Snap
03. {talking}
04. My Eternity
05. East
06. {talking}
07. Cinnamon Girl [Young]
08. {talking}
09. There It Goes
10. Nothing and Everything (cut)
11. Nothing and Everything
12. {talking}
13. Under Your Spell
14. {talking}
15. Rhinoceros
16. {talking}
17. Sun
18. {talking}
19. Spiteface
20. {talking}

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Source: Studio R2R Mix>ana2(?)>CD3

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Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
pre-FM R2R 8.5/10 62m - 382MB APE

1990-08-25 Metro, Chicago, IL, US (13)
**Remastered** by thir13en

I've gotten a lot of requests for early shows. Truth is, they hardly live up to my standards of a decent listening experience, though clearly there are many of you who feel differently. I respect others' opinions, and here's proof, an early 
show 13'd.
It's not bad, really. Oh so much noisier than the "when they had money" recordings. But this one was worthy of treatment. It's rather monophonic and gritty and somewhat compressed, but it captures the band with a decent sonic 
impact, and on the verge of label attention. 
The Gish sessions would occur shortly after this, and by the time they took the stage for the 12-31-90 show recently posted, the setlist was pretty much the album, whereas here they play a funky version of "Razor", Steppenwolf's 
"Sookie Sookie" and BOC's "Godzilla" among other soon-to-be Gish material. Cool show.
I promise nothing, it sounds better than before, but far from the finest material I've worked with. Anyway, you asked (some of you anyway) and here it is. 
Enjoy!
No edits.
Set: 

01. I Am One 02. Snail 03. Rhinoceros 04. Bury Me 05. Tristessa 06. Window Paine 07. Razor 08. Sookie Sookie [Steppenwolf] 09. {crowd noise} 10. Godzilla [Blue Öyster Cult]
Original Notes:
Source : PRO-VID>DAT>CDR (complete)
Thanks to mixwell for this show.
Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
PRO (vid) 8.5/10 45m - 289MB FLAC

1991-09-xx Hotel Room, London, UK (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

This is just an awesome piece of goodness. Billy and a guitar and his best little acoustic pieces in tow. Makes me miss 1991 real bad. To be the rockin' magical age of 27 again. Sigh...
In the original notes it said something about how this sounded really good with a little tape hiss and a rating of 9.5...fine, but then I just completely blew away the 10 point scale! This sounds 4 times better, and though I exposed that tape hiss a bit more than the original, it's well worth the detailed clarity that now exists. Actually hear the pick to string contact...

"...cool as ice cream..."

Set:

01. Drown
02. Suffer
03. La Dolly Vita
04. Obscured
05. Snail

Enjoy

Original Source Info:
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FM>ANA(-M?)>DAT>CDR

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM (ana) 9/10 27m - 155MB FLAC

1991-xx-xx Westwood One Promos (13)
 

**Remastered** by thir13en

So, nobody knows exact dates on these I guess? I bet Billy knows...
...these were just plain exciting to hear. I remember in the early days of MP3's (sometime in early '97) I found these posted on some now-defunct website. The encodes were absolutely horrible to today's standards, not to mention that they certainly weren't the Pre-FM sources they are now. But I loved them anyway, gave them a good home and had they been cassettes I would have chewed through the magnetics in a year. I listened to them that much. Again, my favorite time of the band, '91-'92, and 3 awesome songs at that.
So light up the incense and fire up the Lava-lamp and hark back 14 years to a time when Billy and Jimmy were trying to get you to hark back another 22 years to a time when incense and Lava-lamps first ruled the earth. Peace...

Tracks:

01. Siva
02. Suffer
03. Blue

Bootleg: A thir13en AcoustiCollection

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Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
pre-FM CD 10/10 15m - 80.8MB FLAC

1992-02-05 Elysee Montmartre, Paris, FR (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

92.02.05 Elysee FM, Paris, FR

Some very sweet and fresh Pumpkins material from early '92 plus a quite coherent version of "Silverfuck", not far from the one that would appear on SD over a year later. Short but rockin' set with some interesting song choices.
I just cleaned it up and cranked it out. A "blip" in SF was apparently a cut in the program (DJ talking?), so I did a little crossfade thing there, not perfect but better.

"...and I feel no pain..."

Set:

01. Slunk
02. Window Paine
03. Siva
04. (French song improv)
    > Lady Marmalade [LaBelle] (tease)
05. Offer Up
06. Silverfuck
    > Star Spangled Banner [Key] 

ORIGINAL SOURCE INFO
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Lineage: 40/SBD/promo anaM>stand alone cdr>SHN

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
SBD (ana) 9/10 34m - 224MB FLAC

1992-08-29 Reading Festival, Reading, UK (13)

**Mastered** by thir13en

My capture from VHS of the ABC broadcasted tracks, from a short-lived program called "In Concert". I originally did this about a year ago and seeded it here on the ZOMB, but I couldn't find that cap anywhere, so I did another and probably better one. Ripped through my Sony HDV camera, this one looks better and has seen some video remastering as well as my typical audio touch-ups.
Included is a DVD rendered version of the two songs and FLAC versions of both as well. I edited the video to very nearly be an official widescreen shot, as the top and bottom of the video would be cut-off due to excessive tracking noise anyways.
The audio transfer was very difficult, and some fixes were made. Each song had a weird blip that had to be corrected, but the fix is seamless. Siva had strange dropouts in the EQ on one channel and the song had to be mastered in three pieces. Bury Me was mastered in two pieces as EQ settings would change drastically during the extended drum break (still noticeable, nothing more I could do to it). They also contain the predictable 15.75k tone from video crossover frequencies, but otherwise have nice spectral coverage. They both sound about as good as they'll get.
Audio on DVD tracks is 16-48 wav files.
FLACs are 16-44.

Tracks:

01. Bury Me
02. Siva

13 SOURCE INFO
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JVC Hi-Fi-VHS>SONY HVR-Z1U>Sony Vegas>DVD>Flac

Actual Setlist:

Geek U.S.A.
Rocket
Bury Me
Window Paine
Hello Kitty Kat
Siva
Hummer
I Am One

Damn, why didn't they just broadcast that whole thing!? I'd love to see that whole set. Hard to believe they cut from Siva to show The Farm. I remember them, but barely.

Thanks to mixwell for this version.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
TV VHS 9/10 9m - 61.9MB FLAC

1993-06-30 VPRO Radio, Hilversum, NL (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Cool little acoustic set, got the boost. Very nice sound.
Imperfections in "Spaceboy" and "Dancing..." have been repaired. I believe this was the "Spaceboy" used on the 13 SD live compilation, but I apparently did a different fix for the "blip", and to me this fix sounds better. Just an aside really, no big deal.
Source was clean, really made this a Top 10 RM in my book.

<<EQ, slight spread, slight enhance, maximized>>

Set:

01. Spaceboy
02. Dancing in the Moonlight [Thin Lizzy]
03. Rocket
04. Cherub Rock
05. Today
06. Disarm

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
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Source: FM>DAT>DDC-2>CDR-3>EAC>WAV>FLAC... your copy will be CDR-4
***************************************************************************************
PLEASE DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3 OR SELL
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Total time: 30:15
Notes: This is an AMAZING acoustic set! The tracklisting is in a different order as listed on spfc.org but the DJ even says the order at the end of the interview so this is definitely the correct one.
Flaws: A few blips of diginoise around 3:05 of Spaceboy which might be from the DAT clone gens. Tiny skip around 0:48 of Dancing in the Moonlight. Slight FM static at the beginning of Disarm. Thanks to Dead for pointing these flaws out!
Enjoy!
-traveller03
For the details on FLAC and the software needed to decompress these files go to:
http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=FLAC

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 10/10 24m - 169MB FLAC

1993-07-26 Tower Records, Chicago, IL, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Record release party for "Siamese Dream" at Tower Records in Chicago
I just love a good acoustic show. Like a woman with no make-up, no lipstick or eyeliner, no poofed out hair. Is she still beautiful? These five "ladies" sure are. Great songs no matter how you dress them up, are still great songs.

Set:

01. Rocket
02. Cherub Rock
03. Today
04. Mayonaise
05. Hummer

These came from my copy of the "Drown" boot. I listened to this show a whole lot when I got this disc, even did a remaster of it nearly 10 years ago. But this ones better, for sure. Sounds real nice.

Enjoy!

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 9.5/10 24m - 169MB FLAC

1993-08-14 Metro, Chicago, IL, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

My FAQ: http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=3189&hit=1

A sort of local private party with the Pumpkins, a laid back and extended journey through their tunes, including rare appearances of songs like "Starla" and the closer "Bye June". The use of the electronic cello is IMO, unfortunately grating, but it's stay is brief. Otherwise, a top performance for the hometown crowd, as the Pumpkins always seem to do.

Q'd>Comp'd>S1'd>BBE'd.L3'd

Enjoy

Set:

01. Rocket
02. Quiet
03. Today
04. Rhinoceros
05. Geek U.S.A.
06. Soma
07. I Am One
08. Disarm
09. Spaceboy
10. Starla
11. Cherub Rock
12. Bury Me
13. Hummer
14. Siva
15. Mayonaise
16. Drown
17. Silverfuck
18. Bye June

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
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sbd>Sony d7>cdr>eac>shn by Adam Neelly

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
SBD DAT 10/10 113m D7 680MB FLAC

1993-08-24 Melody, Stockholm, SE (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

This one underwent a bit of reverse-engineering.
The bad news: It was pounding 0, rather crunchy-mid-rangy and just plain too loud. So I actually backed it up a bit, uncompressed it a little and gave it tonal accuracy as much as possible. Then de-noised a slight bit of crunch and finally restored it's digital presence. From the original, the over-all volume is nearly the same, but the EQ spectrum is fuller and much closer to an accurate representation of the actual sound.
It's still not the cleanest of listens, but to me it's much better than the source, and worthy of the needed adjustments.
Now the really good news: it's a short but rockin' show. On the info I had, it listed the first song as Today, as does SPFC, but it is really an incredible version of Snail. Then it's just version after version of great tunes, Rocket and Soma get hammered out tightly, Drown ambles into the feedback orgy with emotion, Silverfuck travels briefly into Bowie territory before kicking out an all-out fist-in-the-teeth ending, and Billy closes it out with a vocal-only Bye June.
Just a killer show...

Q'd>D-Comp'd>BBE'd>L3'd>Ape'd

Set:

01. Snail*
02. Disarm
03. Rocket
04. Soma
05. Cherub Rock
06. Drown
07. Silverfuck
08. Bye June

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
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Source: FM > ANA (unknown if from bootleg)
Conversion: ANAM > CDR2 > SHN

*Note: Snail is from an unknown source, not this show, and mislabelled as "Today" in the text file. Today is therefore missing from this set.

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM (ana) 9/10 44m - 272MB APE

1993-09-12 BBC Studios, London, UK (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Too cool. Enjoyed hearing this all the way through for the first time when I fixed it up. "Disarm" and "Landslide" are delivered with near-perfection, "Never..." is a little edgier than the B-side released version and "Quiet" tears the roof off for good measure.
Good source now sounds loud-n-clear.
Skip in "Quiet" was repaired.

Set:

01. Disarm
02. Landslide [Nicks]
03. Never Let Me Down Again [Depeche Mode]
04. Quiet

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
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Source: BBC Transcription Services CD (Unknown Show Number/Broadcast Date)
NOTE: Small skip in Quiet

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
pre-FM CD 9.5/10 14m - 96.9MB FLAC

1993-09-15 Manchester Academy, Manchester, UK (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Ooops! THIS IS IT! I put my 13 on it!
Some of this was done on the "Spaceboy" boot. But these sources are of a better pFM copy I had laying around. Yea, I found it on an MP3 archive disc in a folder called SHN. Apparently I got this originally about 3 years ago and it's been hidden for a while. I came across it and realized it needed to get out there. After I did my thing, it sounds really nice, very good SD era show.
The pFM did NOT have Bury Me, but I wanted a complete concert so the version of it came from the Spaceboy boot, and I remastered it to more closely reflect the rest of the show.

"...come align for the big fight to rock..."

Smashing Pumpkins
Manchester Academy
Manchester, UK
September 15, 1993

Set:

01. Rocket
02. Quiet
03. Today
04. Disarm
05. Bury Me
06. Hummer
07. Soma
08. Geek U.S.A.
09. Mayonaise
10. Cherub Rock
11. I Am One

Original Source: pre-fm
BBC Transcription disc TCD 0661 "In Concert 581"

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
pre-FM CD 10/10 56m - 393MB FLAC

1993-10-26 Del Mar Fairground, Del Mar, CA, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

I found this sitting in my "done" directory. Apparently I did this 6 weeks ago and it just sat there, lonely and pitiful, not speaking up for itself.
This came from the silver bottom boot "Dream". A good show and decent mix, maybe a little beefy at times and others it seems fine, the source was not consistent there (every once in a while 250hz jumps out on Jimmy's drums, hello!) but a very worthy and rockin' set.

"...life's a bummer, when you're a hummer..."

Set:

01. Geek U.S.A.
02. Rocket
03. Today
04. Disarm
05. Drown
06. Hummer
07. Quiet
08. Cherub Rock
09. Mayonaise
10. Bury Me

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
pre-FM CD 9.5/10 48m - 369MB FLAC

1993-10-26 Del Mar Fairground, Del Mar, CA, US (13b)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Is it better than before? Am I glad I did it again? Will I stop asking no one in particular these questions?
All the sources were different. Better? Let's say not worse. So I did it again with these "pFM" sources. At this point I don't know what got used with what. Anything that seemed artificially beefed to me got axed. Most of the ones I used were rather bright and thin, I even found myself toning down the highs, not common in mastering. Some had channel weirdness, others had strange mixes, guitars were low, drums were loud, etc.
I believe in the end I ended up with the best reps of these songs and they sound coherent, like it's the same show. Lots of treatment and attention into this one. It was a blast to listen to over and over and over while I did this. Great show, great energy, they were truly enjoying themselves.
I hope you enjoy it too.

"...throw a stray spark instead..."

Set:

01. Geek U.S.A.
02. Rocket
03. Today
04. Disarm
05. Bury Me
06. Drown
07. Hummer
08. Soma
09. Siva
10. Cherub Rock
11. Quiet
12. Mayonaise

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
pre-FM CD 10/10 61m - 451MB FLAC

1995-08-25 Reading Festival, Berkshire, UK (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Baby, Let's Rock!
This is one hell of a show. The band returns once again to Reading and delivers a shredding performance of material from SD and the 2 months-away MCIS. It's time to shake the rust and show-off the new songs. And they do, opening with "Jellybelly" and "Zero". And look ognetty, a damn nice version of "Thru The Eyes...".
I can't quite figure what's the deal with this source. This was clearly edited, much the way I would have done, song to song no banter at all, but the transitions are quite smooth. The only info was an EAC log file and it had this:
--Smashing Pumpkins\1995-08-25 - Reading Festival, Berkshire, UK {pre-fm + audience)-
So it's pFM and AUD. Well, what exactly does that mean? Listening to the show the one obvious thing is that "Fuck You..." is different than the rest. A lot like an audience recording but not completely (unfortunately it's kinda fucked up, no pun intended). But the whole show has a mixed feel to it, as though someone combined the pFM (which according to SPFC was missing "F-Y") with an audience source for the whole show and then used all or most of the audience recording for "F-Y". Got it? I'm not sure I do.
Anyway, I'm not a big fan of people doing the mix of two sources without proper timecode. But whoever did this did a pretty decent job. It really does sound like your there at the show. It's a bit much on the audience mix I think, but none-the-less it gets my approval of a very enjoyable listening experience.
The only thing it lacked was proper mastering. Until now.
I spread the mix a bit and added a bunch of bottom. Baby got back!
Enjoy!

Set:

01. Jellybelly
02. Zero
03. Today
04. Disarm
05. Fuck You (An Ode to No One)
06. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
07. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
08. Geek U.S.A.
09. Rocket
10. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
11. Siva
12. Cherub Rock
13. Mayonaise
14. X.Y.U.

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
pre-FM/AUD CD/DAT 10/10 69m CSB>D7 505MB FLAC

1995-10-23 Riviera Theater, Chicago, IL, US (13)

**Mastered** by thir13en

The day before MCIS would land in the stores, the band treated the local fans to an energetic and new-material filled spectacle.
This show was simulcast and re-broadcast to many cities around the globe. Probably why there are so many versions of it out there. Just a quick look at SPFC shows a mind-boggling number of silver-sources. How to determine which was the best capture? You could listen to them all, try to decipher the little nuances, the different edits, FM static, and I bet a few are even mono sourced.
Or you can take this and toss aside the rest. It's my capture from the local DC broadcast on DC101, a broadcast tower that was maybe 2 miles from my house at the time.
I've always used the finest equipment whenever I do anything important, like capturing SP from the radio. And this one was archived on my very expensive and top analog quality HIFI VHS machine. I've mastered to this thing many many times. And I have a wealth of original recordings as well as a few concert caps' on a large catalogue of archived S-VHS tapes. Why is it top analog quality? The head spins at a very high speed rate, eliminating the noise generated by tape-to-head contact, and the tape itself is 1/2" wide, each stereo track getting it's own 1/4" width to stretch out and get comfortable. No bleed, no drop-outs, no squeeze, no noise. And it's better than a DAT anyday, anytime, anywhere. Most DAT machines will strip all the odd harmonic frequencies in it's A to D conversion, unless someone spent the additional thousands of dollars to get a couple of Apogees, which in 1995 was highly unlikely. Still unlikely even today.
Scope it if you like, you'll see a full range of frequencies and no 19K stereo tone or stripped frequencies around that tone. And no FM static at all. Still FM compressed as all FM is, but it sounds immaculate. And of course it's been properly mastered. Though I've probably mastered it a few times over the years, I did it one more time with the latest and greatest tools to share with you, the dedicated SP bunch here at the Zomb.
Yes, my copy did have quite a bit of banter, station ID's and the "blackout" that occurred during the first attempt at "Zero". Of course that's been edited. It's just a rock-n-roll show, top to bottom, and includes them being joined by Cheap Trick for the closers unlike some other versions I've seen that omitted those songs. I guarantee you'll not hear this show sound better than this.

Yes, "...the World is a vampire..." indeed.

Set:

01. Tonight, Tonight
02. Jellybelly
03. Zero
04. Today
05. Disarm
06. Fuck You
07. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
08. Geek U.S.A.
09. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
10. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
11. Cherub Rock
12. Mayonnaise
13. X.Y.U.
14. Baby Loves To Rock
[Cheap Trick]
15. If You Want My Love
[Cheap Trick]
16. Auf Wiedersehen
[Cheap Trick]

**Do Not Play At Low Volumes**
**Do Not Sit Still During Listening**
**Do Not Download For A Dust-Gathering Collection, Only Download For Repeated Listening Enjoyment**
**Do Not Over-Analyze What Is Truly The Insignificance Of Live Music Trading\Sharing To The Clear Significance Of Alleviating Human-Suffering Around The Globe...I Don't Recall Hearing One Person From New Orleans Who Was Hysterical About Finding Relatives, Needing Food & Water, And Wondering Why They Didn't Hear Billy Corgan Ask If Everyone Was Having A Good Time At A Show From Ten Years Ago**
**Do Enjoy the Music**

Source Info
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FM>HI-FI VCR>Digi001>Soundforge>Flac

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM (ana) S-VHS 10/10 77m HI-FI VCR 555MB FLAC

1995-12-12 De Melkweg, Amsterdam, NL (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Since MS has been cracking the whip on me to get him more MCIS material, I keep coming across things I'd like to have for myself, like this sludge-blues version of "Silverfuck". It enters with a vibe of rhythm and space, and then never leaves it, slowly groovin' through the song of which the lyrics and chord progressions are still recognizable, but barely.
Also, this show is now complete as performed using four different sources. "Porcelina" is from the silver "Twilight", and Songs 2-12 are from the silver "Disconnect" (much better quality versions than the "Twilight" versions). BWBW is from a WMV video source streamed in at 300k using my high-quality digital streaming technique and filled in slightly with the AUD track (it had cut out Billy's flub in the break, so I put it back in). And believe it or not, I RM'd an AUD track so that we could have the "Emotional Rescue-Sunday Bloody Sunday" 2 minute spectacle.
All in all, I'm pleased with the result, and nice to have the show complete in the best quality possible. Even the AUD track doesn't sound half-bad, but now don't be getting any ideas that it will happen too much more! This was a deserving special occasion after all. As for the process, so many different things got done, let's just say it all got the usual treatment from me, and I tried to have the whole thing flow as best as possible. I'll happily listen to it and enjoy it, for what that's worth to you.

Set:

01. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
02. Jellybelly
03. Zero
04. Disarm
05. Today
06. Fuck You
07. Emotional Rescue [Rolling Stones]
    > Sunday Bloody Sunday [U2]
08. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
09. Where Boys Fear to Tread
10. Cherub Rock
11. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
12. X.Y.U.
13. Geek U.S.A.
14. Silverfuck

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
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Track 1: 1995/12/12 - Melkweg; Amsterdam, NL - soundboard
*Silver Bottom Bootleg > WAV(via EAC) > FLAC(via FLAC Frontend Level 6)
Tracks 2-12: 1995/12/12 - Melkweg; Amsterdam, NL - soundboard
*Silver Bottom Bootleg > WAV(via EAC) > FLAC(via FLAC Frontend Level 6)
BWBW - WMV Streamed at 300k>MOTU Traveler@24-96>Soundforge(to 16-44)
Emotional Rescue - AUD DAT [ ECM-909a > D7 ] DDC-1 > SHN

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
SBD/AUD/WWW CD/DAT/WMV 8.5/10 68m - 486MB APE

1996-03-13 Triple J Studios, Sydney, AU (13)

**REMASTERED** by thir13en

After perusing through five different caps of this show, this source was the clear winner for purest lineage and integrity, and the best remaster candidate hands-down. A couple of the other sources were obviously worked over as well, but if I may be so bold, they were not as good as this.
I've always loved this show. There are acoustic shows for nearly every stage of the Pumpkins career, each one delivering the tunes of the time in a cozy setting that helps to ensure a proper environment for the stripped-down display of chords and emotion. This one may be the most "complete", as the setlist travels in rhythm and grace, opening with "Tonight x2", meandering into mostly the quieter territory of tunes, and ending with a brilliantly subdued version of the album-rocker "Muzzle".


"...have you ever heard the words, I'm singing in these songs?"

Set:

01. Tonight, Tonight
02. 1979
03. Cupid de Locke
04. Thirty-three
05. Take Me Down
06. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
07. To Forgive
08. Muzzle

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
===================
===================
Turpentine Kisses
Label: Kiss The Stone
ID: KTS 531
Track info: Tracks 1-8: 1996/03/13 - Triple J Studios; Sydney, AU - soundboard

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
SBD CD 8.5/10 34m - 230MB FLAC

1996-04-07 Philipshalle, Duesseldorf, DE (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

In September 1997, I would have a chance encounter with Billy in NYC in the record store *Rocks In Your Head* in SoHo. After chasing him down outside near Houston St and a discussion about future recordings, I would return to the store and buy this boot. A CD that will always be near and dear to my heart, the "Secrets of Your Dreams" silver CD on the Italian KTS bootleggers label.
From the beginning of my RM "career", I have rejected doing this CD for various reasons, one of which is the stellar job that KTS generally does in their mastering. But over time and through many other RM's, I've found even small flaws in the sound can be enhanced through my process, and going back to hear this one I noticed it could be improved.
Recently we've seen the DVD surface, audio coming from various sources. This one, which is stamped "soundboard" on the front artwork, is accurately labelled. The spectral is full and shows no signs of FM or TV sourcing and therefore probably is a definitive soundboard source (or at least a pre-broadcast source). And it's a great show too.
Did some hard line tweaks to a few heavily-handed frequencies, spread out a bit, enhanced slightly and maximized. The difference is less hard-core midrange, a slight volume boost and a nice overall warmth that was lacking in the source.

Set:

01. Tonight, Tonight
02. Zero
03. Fuck You
04. Today
05. To Forgive
06. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
07. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
08. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
09. Disarm
10. Muzzle
11. Cherub Rock
12. 1979
13. X.Y.U.

13 SOURCE INFO
==================
==================
Silver CD "Secrets Of Your Dreams">SoundForge>FLAC

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
TV CD 9/10 70m - 493MB FLAC

1996-04-19 Messe B, Stuttgart, DE (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

A request, as apparently there is a big hole of my RM's in the 95-96 range...so I grabbed this off of Western Avenue and slapped it good.
Great show, great mix, perfect for mastering. A slight drop on the right channel was fixed, and the track ID's were really screwy, some cutting off beginnings of songs, that's fixed as well. Not a single piece of show was edited; all banter, water sipping, Chinese national anthems, whatever...it's all there.

Q'd>S1'd>BBE'd>L3'd>APE'd

Set:

01. Tonight, Tonight
02. To Forgive
03. Today
04. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
05. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
06. By Starlight
07. Geek U.S.A.
08. Disarm
09. (blues jam)
10. 1979
11. Zero
12. Mayonaise
13. Fuck You (An Ode to No One)
14. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
15. Cherub Rock
16. Farewell and Goodnight

Trade freely in any manner you like.
Reseed to another tracker immediately if you like.
Choose to ignore if you like.
Try to relax and enjoy the tunes, that's the only thing that matters.
If you waste even one breath arguing over the validity of these things, you're really missing out on life as a whole. Get out more. There is a world beyond your keyboard and monitor.

PRE 13 SOURCE INFO
======================
FM>?>DAT-M>CDR-3

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 9.5/10 80m D8 553MB APE

1996-05-15 Brixton Academy, London, UK (13)

*a thir13en remaster*

Smashing Pumpkins
1996-05-15 Brixton Academy, London, UK

"Atomic Energy" Silver CD > Easy CD-DA Extractor > FLAC > WAV > 13'd (eq>BBE>L3) > FLAC

Tracks:

01. Tonight, Tonight
02. 1979
03. Zero
04. Here Is No Why
05. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
06. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
07. Jellybelly
08. Silverfuck
09. Disarm
10. Bullet with Butterfly Wings

Pre-thir13en source info:
Label: Tube
ID: TUCD 014
Track info: Tracks 1-10: 1996/05/15 - Brixton Academy; London, UK - soundboard, electric
Length: 00:47:14

Notes:
Above info from spfc.org. The spectral analysis suggests the source of the 1996-05-15 part of this bootleg is the PRO promo video source, similar to that of the Brixton bootleg. However, my copy of Brixton seems to come from a mono source with maximized levels and probable normalization washing out the sound. This source is far superior.
This remaster contains only the 10 tracks from the Brixton Academy show, and is not the entire bootleg.
I left an untouched copy of the original info file as I received it.
I added tags in Winamp 5.34, created ffp and st5 checksums, and added a spectral analysis.
Thanks to daZe for the bootleg which was originally seeded to Zomb Torrents 2007-04-01 by ognetty.
This is a show that has long been begging for the thir13en treatment, and finally it has got it. The Atomic Energy bootleg is the best source I have heard so far of this awesome show, and although incomplete is miles ahead of other bootlegs containing this set. The remaster is clean and crisp, a vast improvement to the low end and a definite sparkle has been added higher up.

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
PRO CD 10/10 48m - 299MB FLAC

1997-01-08 GM Place, Vancouver, BC, CA (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

**This was 4th time I've RM'd this one, the other three I considered to be unworthy to share. Who says I don't care about quality?**
This saw some serious work, it's basically been broken down and rebuilt. The final, at first listen, won't seem that dramatic a difference to the casual listener, but trust me, it's been improved.
Now fixed:
1. A slight DC offset. Very hard to see, actually not there to the naked eye, but staring at the waveform for a moment and something weird caught my eye. I scanned it and it had a very slight offset.
2. Out-of-sync word clock "ticks". Every few seconds, that tiny little "click".
3. It was a hissy bee-yatch.
4. Thin, no depth at all.
5. Tracking and info's were wrong. 20 songs listed, 22 actual song files (I added an additional track as well, see below).

Taking all that in, one wonders what the hell happened to it on the way to becoming shared data. DC offsets are common, but word clock error "blips" are not. Someone tried to do the right thing in doing a digital transfer, but apparently didn't understand the importance of proper sync techniques. And a quick look shows no other "surfaced" versions of it, so this is what we have.
This is easily the most processing I've ever done to a show, but it needed it. I've enjoyed listening to it, so I believe it's now worthy to share.
I edited nothing, except to extract the last song from the end of Silverfuck. Often listed as "Zoom", it's a better description than tagging it as an ending to Silverfuck and calling it "Space Jam". It's clearly a song all unto itself, let us respect it as one, a pretty cool rockin' tune at that!

Q'd>Comp'd>S1'd>BBE'd>X-Click'd>X-Noise'd>L3'd>Ape'd

Set:

01. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
02. Tonight, Tonight
03. Cherub Rock
04. Where Boys Fear to Tread
05. Rhinoceros
06. Zero
07. Fuck You
08. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
09. Rocket
10. Thirty-three
11. 1979
12. (intro)
13. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
14. Muzzle
15. Disarm
16. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
17. {banter}
18. X.Y.U.
19. By Starlight
20. Siva
21. The Aeroplane Flies High
22. Silverfuck
23. Zoom
    > Bury Me (tease)

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
==================
FM>DAT>CDR?
I'm sorry, but I have no idea what generation CDR this comes from, even after trying to find the bootlist of the person from whom I obtained the show.
It's a great show. Possibly one of the best of the era. Enjoy.

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 10/10 133m - 827MB APE

1997-06-27 Glastonbury Festival, Glastonbury, UK (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

No I haven't forgotten about these guys, just doing some other stuff that I like and that I knew others would want as well. But now let's rawk!
A string of shows in which they were doing the newly released "Batman" song during the summer tours of '97, this one being my favorite of the versions. Plus great performances of By Starlight and Thru the Eyes of Ruby with a rare appearance of the B-side Transformer as well. And did I mention the truly awesome version of The End is the Beginning is the End? Oh, OK.
Unfortunately this was all the material that was broadcast from this show, but better to have this than nothing at all.

"...is it bright where you are?.."

Set:

01. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
02. By Starlight
03. The End Is the Beginning Is the End
04. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
05. Tonight, Tonight
06. Transformer
07. Zero

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM CD 10/10 33m - 228MB FLAC

1997-06-28 Roskilde Festival, Roskilde, DK (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Finally, a great show with a decent capture. As many of you may know, I prattled on endlessly about how awful the Exit Mellon Collie boot sounds, as if that were the only problem with it. EMC is seriously flawed in so many ways, and if you own a copy of it, burn it, cut it up, make a cool design out of the left-over shapes. It is utterly worthless.
But this one is just right. Though still somewhat heavily FM compressed, it sounds sooooooo much better. And lent itself well to the remaster process.
The EQ needed some good tweaks, and it got maximized.
Enjoy!

Set:

01. Where Boys Fear to Tread
02. Eye
03. Tonight, Tonight
04. Transformer
05. Zero
06. The End Is the Beginning Is the End
07. By Starlight
08. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
09. We Only Come Out at Night
10. Muzzle
11. X.Y.U.
12. 1979

And though I've never stated as much before, I'll start now:
I've seen many other so-called "traders" (or are they "traitors"?) load up their infos with total nonsense about "Do not this and do not that" crap, with respect to editing, seeding, encoding, yadda yadda yadda...
I've personally never understood the mentality of trying to control something beyond my means. If you want to encode this to whatever you want, how exactly will I stop you? If you want to reseed this elsewhere, right now, or in three weeks, just who should I call to secure the supposed infringement? And just what gives me the right to make such a claim, to tell anyone what they can and cannot do?
None of us own any of this music. Not a single fucking second of it. We are all extremely lucky to have any of it. Yet some feel they can claim some legal right to it, because they taped it, or were the first to share it, or whatever. I guess this is news for you: You can't! You have no rights, you should consider yourself lucky that the RIAA isn't banging down your fucking door right now.
I'm not going to load my infos with a bunch of worthless nonsense (other than this rant, of course), if these are supposed to be the common courtesies of this community, then those of you who care about such nonsense will have the good intentions with respect to your actions. Those who don't give a rats ass probably haven't read any of this nonsense anyways.
My only hope is that everyone enjoys the music. There is absolutely nothing else that matters. Just have the tunes make you feel good, that's what it's there for.

ORIGINAL SOURCE INFO
-------------------------
Silver Bottom Bootleg (Festive) > WAV(via EAC) > FLAC(via FLAC Frontend Level 6)
Label: (none)
Track info: Tracks 1-12: 1997/06/28 - Roskilde Festival; Roskilde, DK - soundboard, electric
Notes:
The first 5 seconds of Track 1 are cut

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM (ana) 9.5/10 52m - 375MB FLAC

1997-06-29 Open Air Program '97, St. Gallen, CH (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

I decided to go ahead and fix this up a bit, mostly to complete the trilogy (Glastonbury & Roskilde) of the FM broadcasted summer festival shows the Pumpkins did in June '97. The brief stint with Matt Walker as the beat-master climaxed in these sets, as each included a slightly altered opening of the just released "The End Is The Beginning Is The End", the lead-off track from the Batman soundtrack. Unfortunately this broadcast left off two other live rarities, "The Aeroplane Flies High" from the same-titled box set released the previous November and "Eye" from the spacey/foggy Lynch flick "Lost Highway".
This show had some serious issues. It being a mirrored mono program it was completely out of phase, and was nearly unlistenable. I fixed the phase issue and then did the fake stereo thing to it, then tweaked the EQ and maximized.
I'll post some samples to give an idea of the A, B and even C.

EDITS-
My version had an interview with James and D'arcy right smack in the middle of the show. I can't imagine a better way to drag down a live experience than to spend 5 minutes in the middle listening to blabber. So it's gone. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm showing my age, maybe it's because I know it's out there as-is anyway, but I'm just not that interested in hearing the talking. I remember a time when I did want to hear it, but I've never wanted my show to be interrupted by it, nor do I remember ever feeling the need to hear it twice. I've still got a pretty good memory, and I like to exercise it by retaining trivial data. I can still recite a certain David Lee Roth interview from 1980, how's that for trivial?!
Plus there was some DJ talk and some station ID's, also gone.
Then there was a 2+ minute "Jam" track at the end, which made absolutely no sense whatsoever, it was clearly the end of XYU. The actual point of edit was quite confusing, as the "jam" had already gone on for about 2 minutes before the track ID was then set as the "jam". XYU is now properly edited as one long version, and btw, an awesome extended version at that.
Enjoy!

Set:

01. Tonight, Tonight
02. Transformer
03. Zero
04. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
05. The End Is the Beginning Is the End
06. By Starlight
07. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
08. Muzzle
09. 1979
10. X.Y.U.

ORIGINAL SOURCE INFO
============================
Filename: sp1997-06-29.txt
Created: 2/8/2003
Edited: 2/8/2003
Band: Smashing Pumpkins
Title: Open Air Program '97
Venue: ?
Location: St. Gallen, Switzerland
Date: June 29, 1997
Taper: some guy in Switzerland
Source: FM > ANAM > CDR
Location: n/a
Converter: Cabbage <cabbage@jimmieschickenshack.net>
Conversion: Aiwa Stereo > Line-In on PC
Resampling: none
Editor: Cabbage <cabbage@jimmieschickenshack.net>
Editing: SoundForge to normalize, CD Wave to split tracks
SHN: SoundForge > MKWact
Errors/Flaws: none
Seeder: Cabbage <cabbage@jimmieschickenshack.net>
Notes: Thanks to guy in Switzerland for sending me his master. I apologize for taking to long to get it back to you.

Actual Setlist:

NB. Glimpses [Yardbirds]
NB. Where Boys Fear to Tread
- Tonight, Tonight
- Transformer
- Zero
- Thru the Eyes of Ruby
- The End Is The Beginning Is The End
- By Starlight
- Bullet with Butterfly Wings
- Muzzle
- 1979
- X.Y.U.
NB. Eye
NB. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
NB. The Aeroplane Flies High

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM (ana) 9/10 51m - 332MB FLAC

1998-05-14 Spielbudenplatz, Hamburg, DE (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Great early Adore tour show. It's obvious that these guys are still feeling there way to working with each other, there's a definite rough edge to the performances here and the mix isn't as smooth as the later US shows when these guys hit a groove. It still has a great R-n-R attitude though and the sound quality of the best German shows is rivalled by none. Personally, I love the slower funkier version of "Transmission" they did in Europe over the frantic paced one they did in the States. Yet the faster version generally ran 7 to 10 minutes longer, figure that one out! All in all, a must have for Adore tour fans.
Tech notes: Some weirdness here with volume levels as there was some sort of brief "gapped" pause in the middle of "Shame" and all of a sudden the volume jumped +3db. I fixed the gap as best I could and unless you know exactly where it was you'll not notice it, and the volume change was corrected as well. That was interesting to do in the middle of a song too. The lesson here folks is when taping a show set your levels BEFORE the show starts and then just leave it alone. I'll take care of the rest.

"...faster than the speed of sound..."

Set:

01.  To Sheila
02.  Tear
03.  Once Upon a Time
04.  Crestfallen
05.  Ava Adore
06.  Daphne Descends
07.  Let Me Give the World to You
08.  Tonight, Tonight
09.  Bullet with Butterfly Wings
10.  Shame
11.  1979
12.  Thru the Eyes of Ruby
13.  Transmission [Joy Division]
    > Help [The Beatles] (tease)

Original Source Info
---------------------
FM>anaM>cdr>EAC>WAV>SHN

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM (ana) 9/10 100m - 748MB FLAC

1998-05-19 Aula Magna, Lisbon, PT (13)

**Remastered* by thir13en

Thanks to ognetty for the original upload. Before you go patting yourself on the back, check that first line below.
:lol:
What a pain in the ass this was. That damn annoying station ID, and in the oddest spots. "Entaina Tage!" or something like that. I got it, you're trying to tell me what I'm listening to, the "...station that was hot enough to broadcast this show, to you, you lucky listener, aren't we cool? Wanna know who we are? Over and over?" But how about once or twice during the show, not at the beginning and ending of every other song. Holy moly.
So they are gone now, I believe. I wouldn't doubt it one of those bastards slipped in there somehow, so mischievous. But I think they are gone, and so is a whole bunch of banter. I probably would have left it alone, but since I was cutting the hell out of it anyway, I kept going. Blame the station for those insane ID's.
Considering Adore had yet to be released, they gave the fans a heavy dose of it anyway, opening with 9 straight new songs. They dipped a bit into the old stuff: BWBW, Ruby and the staple 1979, plus a spacey groovy-European version of Transmission to finish it off, as usual.
I cleaned it up and cranked it out. Sound is superb. The Adore broadcasts were some of the best live recordings I've heard. A lot of time and attention was clearly put into them. So enjoy them!

"...gone in a flash unreal..."

Set:

01. To Sheila
02. Tear
03. Crestfallen
04. Once Upon a Time
05. Ava Adore
06. Shame
07. (audience jam)
08. Daphne Descends
09. Let Me Give the World to You
10. Perfect
11. Tonight, Tonight
12. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
13. Stumbleine
14. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
15. 1979
16. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
17. For Martha
18. Transmission [Joy Division]

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM - 10/10 124m - 933MB FLAC

1998-07-29 Constitution Hall, Washington, DC (13)

**Recorded, edited and mastered** by thir13en

We were second row, right in front of James. I've never felt an impact like that before, nor since. They took the stage, ambled into "to Sheila" and we thought, cool, this is nice. Then the big part came with drums, distortion and a cement wall of sound, and I literally blew back a few inches, my body shook, swayed back and vibrated. I've worked live shows many times. I've had the venue manager shove db meters in my face saying it was too loud on a whole lot of occasions. I guarantee I've never mixed anything that loud before, and although I've apparently tried, I tell you with complete certainty I never came close to that.
WHFS broadcast this, and in their over 20 years of rockin' service to the community of DC, they were huge Pumpkins fans. But they botched this badly, omitting Blank Page and Transmission from the broadcast. I pleaded with them, but nothing. Somebody somewhere has these songs, probably in PRE-FM form...where are you? So then about 4 months ago, with no warning, WHFS went Latino...I guess it's karma in action.
Some FM noise during BWBW, sorry. I'm clear on the other side of DC (Oh it's only a city and burb's of over 6 million people!) from their broadcast tower, a good 30 miles of dense city, power lines and freeways. I did my best, believe me.

Set:

01. To Sheila
02. Once Upon a Time
03. Ava Adore
04. Perfect
05. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
06. Tear
07. Annie Dog
08. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Blank Page - NB
09. Tonight, Tonight
10. Blissed and Gone
11. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
12. Shame
13. For Martha
14. 1979
Transmission [Joy Division] - NB

Lineage (Panasonic 3800 DAT>Gina by EchoAudio>Soundforge>CDR)

Enjoy!

EDIT: I changed the song listing to match SPFC, I really don't remember that "Blank Page" was that early on in the show, but I guess an audience boot could prove me wrong on that too...

Extra info from a second copy I have of this (also from thir13en):
Lineage goes something like:
(FM>Panasonic 3800 DAT>Pro Tools Digi001>Sound Forge>Waves L3>Flac)
And for the record, I really don't care if you rip it to MP3, or WMA, or have it etched into acetate to playback on an Edison or Admiral (you young folks look that up on Google). Whatever makes you happy, just enjoy the tunes people.
I'm nearly positive this show has never been circulated in a lossless format. I recorded and encoded this master into MP3's and upped them via FTP almost seven years ago, chances are if you have those MP3's, I did them. Now hear them in FLAC.
WHFS, which broadcast this show a few days after the actual show, decided on their own to omit two songs, Blank Page and Transmission. This is the only time during the broadcasts of Adore shows I believe this was done, setting a lone and disturbing precedent. I called, complained, they didn't care. Two months ago it became a Latino station, late Karma I guess.
This is the first appearance of Blissed & Gone. An excellent show, my wife and I were second row right in front of James. It was so loud down there it could not have been safe. We survived anyway.

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 9/10 86m SV-3800 608MB FLAC

1998-07-31 Orpheum Theater, Boston, MA, US (13)

**Mastered** by thir13en

Another fine Adore Tour performance and still sizzling in that awesome groove they had going up and down the East Coast.
As I pulled out the source I got from the Zomb a few months back I was hit immediately with its' mono thud. So I dug up the cassettes that I had gotten in a trade back in late '98, knowing they were in stereo. As I transferred them I noticed the tremolo effect, that obvious "I was dubbed on a weak rollered deck" kind of warble. I thought about the two different sources and which would be the one I would really listen to. It didn't take long, and will tell you what I think about mono...I went with the cassettes. It's definitely an upgrade over that other source and I've listened to it without incident, and I'm pretty picky (obviously), so it's clearly worth sharing.
This is the complete show as I got it, the only editing I did was to clean up the breaks between cassette flips and the stop-start the taper did during the lengthy audience applause before the encores began. Otherwise, it's a complete representation of the broadcast.

"...what if what is isn't true?"

Set:

01. To Sheila
02. Behold! the Night Mare
03. Pug
04. Once Upon a Time
05. Ava Adore
06. Tear
07. Annie-Dog
08. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
09. Tonight, Tonight
10. Perfect
11. Appels + Oranjes
12. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
13. Shame
14. For Martha
15. 1979
16. Summertime [Gershwin/Heyward] (tease)
    > Blank Page
13 SOURCE INFO
===================
FM>?>Cassette>Digi001>Vegas>Flac

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM (ana) 9/10 102m - 778MB FLAC

1998-07-31 Orpheum Theater, Boston, MA, US (13b)

**Remastered** by thir13en

(13b)

Seeded at the Zomb on 2006-07-30, it'll be 8 years tomorrow! Wow...
Late last year I seeded my cassette version of this show. The circulated version I had got from the Zomb last summer was in mono, and my copy was stereo and sounded pretty good. As a 2nd gen cassette, it had some warbles and dips but mostly did the job better than the mono version.
In the spring of this year I found a nice DAT version on Western Avenue. Interestingly, all three sources I had showed this particular broadcast was more crunchy than a lot of the other Adore shows. But this DAT source was clearly the best, and in proper stereo form (big thanks to taper and original seeder). So I re-did the remaster using this source, as I want my collection to have the best possible quality available.
And now I share it with anyone interested.

Set:

01. To Sheila
02. Behold! the Night Mare
03. Pug
04. Once Upon a Time
05. Ava Adore
06. Tear
07. Annie-Dog
08. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
09. Tonight, Tonight
10. Perfect
11. Appels + Oranjes
12. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
13. Shame
14. For Martha
15. 1979
16. Summertime [Gershwin/Heyward] (tease)
    > Blank Page

NOTE: as for the naming scheme, this is for my stuff only. I'm not trying to recreate any type of standard system in the community, it is for my purposes only, but it can help those who collect my stuff to understand what they have:
(13) - is an original RM
(13.1)- Means I used the same source in a redo
(13b) - Means I used a different source in the redo
Hope that helps.
======================
= PRE-13 SOURCE INFO =
======================
Taper: Dave Asselin
Source: FM > Sony PCM-R300
Conversion: Sony PCM-R300(DAT-M) > Audiophile 2496 > WAV > SHN > CDR-0
Editor: Fares Halteh
SHN: CDR-0 > EAC v0.9 beta 3 > MKW Audio Compression Tool

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 9.5/10 103m Sony PCM-R300 766MB FLAC

1998-08-04 Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

A damn fine sounding source, transferred and\or mastered by someone who knew enough to master it to 0.0 without clipping. So why bother with it? Admittedly I'm near insanity with these things, compulsive beyond reason, but if it's not quite right I won't hear it. I share because it's been requested. At first pass, may not seem too different, but it is.
I felt a hard line 3.5k that had to be subdued, some missing rounded-edge of 1k and a little show-off room for 16k, did a bit of decompress, then used a touch of filtered noise control and maximized. It's very warm & clean. I like it.
Made "Summertime" and "Blank Page" one track, and cleaned up transition between 12 & 13.

Tracks:

01. To Sheila
02. Behold! the Night Mare
03. Pug
04. Crestfallen
05. Ava Adore
06. Tear
07. Annie-Dog
08. Perfect
09. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
10. Tonight, Tonight
11. Once Upon a Time
12. Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
13. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
14. Shame
15. For Martha
16. 1979
17. Blank Page
18. Transmission

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
===================
===================
Source : FM
Gen : DAT>CDR-0
Length : 138 min.
Track Info: 1-12, 1-6: Fox Theater - Atlanta, GA.
Extra Info: Good quality.

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 10/10 139m - 0.98GB APE

1998-08-06 Oven's Auditorium, Charlotte, NC, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

I remember it was an incredible Spring day, as we often get here, and I was building the patio out back that we've talked about doing for 5 years. It's a big hole, and needs me to gather and move the few tons of sand and gravel base into it.
I forget the seeder, but he was nice enough to seed the original of this show a day earlier. I had a horrible mono MP3 version of it, so this was a wonderful improvement. And I get up that next beautiful morning, and decide to stay in and RM this show. Then that night I seed it here.
Well, it caused a bit of a flack over the original still being up and having leechers and seeds when I then put mine up, merely a day and a half later. I never did it again out of respect for the original seeds. That and I'm so backed up now it would be almost impossible to recreate that scenario.
Otherwise, I can offer that it's a great show (all the July-August '98 shows are sizzling hot performance wise) and contains yet another slightly altered version of Transmission, one of the great concert closers ever done, IMO.

Set:

01. To Sheila
02. Behold! the Night Mare
03. Pug
04. Once Upon a Time
05. Ava Adore
06. Tear
07. Annie Dog
08. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
09. Tonight, Tonight
10. Perfect
11. Stumbleine
12. (drum solo)
13. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
14. Shame
15. For Martha
16. 1979
17. Transmission [Joy Division]

Tech Notes:
Right side was scoped at -1.83db, this was corrected using a volume increase for that side.
BBE Sonic Maximizer, Lo Contour at around 9 O'clock (or about 25%), no Process, full output.
Waves L3 Multimaximizer with a ceiling of 0.0, Threshold of -4.1, Q 16 bits, crossover fq's at 80-320-1278-5113, adding 0.7 of low mids, 0.5 of mids, losing -0.3 of high-mids and -0.3 of highs.

PRE-13 SOURCE INFO
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[FM] FM>DAT>cdr>WAV>FLAC
Length: 125 Minutes
Grade: 10

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 9/10 118m - 914MB FLAC

2000-01-07 Cirkus, Stockholm, SE (13)

***Remastered by thir13en***

I have no idea who taped this, upped it, whatever...I mean no disrespect, without you this wouldn't even be possible, so I am grateful and I raise a mug (or a spliff, if you like) in your direction...
I wanted to do a great Machina show. The fact is, there's so many decent recordings of that tour that I haven't even heard them all. I got this off the Zomb sometime late summer 2004 and have just now heard it. I liked the version of Pale Scales and went from there. Later I realized this was the show that Billy was sick, he's a bit off scale at times and even a bit froggy. But the show was actually quite good. Unfortunately it was broadcast in two different incomplete edits. This is a combo of both shows.
The Machina tour broadcasts mostly sound pretty decent already, but a big low-end boost, a clarity nudge and a multiband-maximizer still needed to take place on this one. Now we have professional CD quality representation of that night.
NOTE: NO EDITING TOOK PLACE. IF THERE WAS BANTER, IT'S STILL THERE. This was a complete automated remaster, I did not do a song by song. I make note of this because this is a huge rarity for me, a big no-no. But for time sakes, it had to be done this way. I've listened and I think it still sounds pretty damn good. Enjoy!

Set:

01. Pale Scales
02. The Everlasting Gaze
03. Glass' Theme
04. Heavy Metal Machine
05. Tonight, Tonight
06. Ava Adore
07. I Am One
08. Rock On
[Essex]
09. Zero
10. I of the Mourning
11. 1979
12. X.Y.U.
13. We Love You

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM MD 9.5/10 71m - 523MB FLAC

2000-02-17 Tree Studio, Atlanta, GA, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

Yes, mucho editing. All talk, interviews and the multiple laughing flubs of "Today" on the piano are gone. It was fun for a listen one time, but repeated listens it's too much, let's just get on with the tunes, shall we?
This one sounded really nice before, mostly I just maximized the digital output and did some minor cleaning and editing. Straight music baby...Rock on!

Original Source: Original FM broadcast > Sony MZ-R55 MD

Set:

01. I of the Mourning
02. Age of Innocence
03. Stand Inside Your Love
04. Rock On [Essex]
05. Bullet with Butterfly Wings

Bootleg: A thir13en AcoustiCollection

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM MD 9/10 20m MZ-R55 157MB FLAC

2000-03-07 Columbia City Theatre, Seattle, WA, US (13)

**Remastered** by thir13en

I just love acoustic shows. This is a good one. Sounded nice before, sounds even better now. Rock on!

Original Source: fm>dat(M1)>cdr-L>eac>shn

Set:

01. I of the Mourning
02. Rock On [Essex]
03. Heavy Metal Machine
04. Today
05. Blue Skies Bring Tears
06. Glass and the Ghost Children
07. Stand Inside Your Love
08. 1979
09. Join Together [The Who]

Bootleg: A thir13en AcoustiCollection

Thanks to mixwell for this show.

Source Format Rating Length Equipment Size Type
FM DAT 8.5/10 51m M1 372MB FLAC

2000-04-16 The Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, US (13)

***Remastered by thir13en***

This was a show. Holy crap this was a show. I can't believe it took this long for us to get it up on the Zomb, much less thir13en'd. But here it is. The only emotional equivalent to the Pumpkins playing in Chicago is U2 playing in Dublin. Any other band playing in their own hometown doesn't hold the impact of it's locals like those two do. Much like "U2 Go Home" packed the best of their most recent shows into one electric night, this set has an intensity that was rarely seen from